Ramblings, rants, and quotes
Preaching? Start with the person in the mirror. Readings and discussions and listening to idiots got me going today...Sorry for the mishmash of info.
Electing Gay Bishop Like 'Terrorist Bomb'
by Kim Cuitis, Associated Press
May 3, 2006 - 7:00 pm ET
(San Francisco, California) What's left of unity in the Episcopal Church is at stake heading into a weekend election for bishop of California that sets up a major clash over gays' role in the church.
Three of the seven candidates are openly gay, and choosing one of them to head the Diocese of California would further alienate Episcopal conservatives already feeling betrayed that the church approved a gay bishop three years ago. It could also fracture the strained relationship between America's 2.3 million Episcopalians and their parent body, the worldwide Anglican Communion.
A vote against a gay bishop would likely preserve the fragile truce.
The Rev. Paul Zahl, dean of the conservative Trinity Episcopal School for Ministry in Ambridge, Pa., likened the election of a gay bishop in California to "a terrorist bomb, which is timed to destroy a peace process."
Anglicanism, which includes the U.S. Episcopal Church among its 77 million followers in 164 countries, has been torn over the issue of gay clergy for years.......
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The following link is a good eye opening site. It was done in response to Jerry Fallwell, but the issues and points made are wide ranging. A couple of the quotes and info below are taken from it. Take a look.
http://www.fallwell.com/
What would Jesus do?
During his earthly ministry...
Jesus never called a gay person a sinner.
Jesus never called a gay person immoral.
Jesus never asked a gay person to change.
Jesus never condemned a single gay person.
Jesus never judged a single gay person.
Jesus never quoted scripture against a single gay person.
"I distrust those people who know so
well what God wants them to do because
I notice it always coincides with
their own desires."
..........Susan B. Anthony
"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."
.........Anne Lamott, author
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And don't even get me started on those who misquote or selectivly quote the bible.
And the "love the sinner, hate the sin" bullshit...A big cop out.
"sigh"
Comments
You have my support on this Brent. I am Episcopalian, and watch with detached interest the Broohaha being generated every time this issue comes up. Jesus' first and foremost commandment is to love one another.... not a select group, or race, or gender.
How can one claim to love Jesus, and not others?
I think the E. Church is moving in the right direction, and those who leave will seek their "peace" elsewhere. I wish them luck.
Posted by: Laurie | May 4, 2006 02:21 AM
Other churchres are grappling with these issues too, But the discussion yesterday was about the Episcopal Church and I happened to come across that article. I guess have a problem with the hypocrisy of many who use religion as an excuse for their own phobias, agendas, and feelings of superiority. I try tp remember not to lump these people in with those that follow what they preach.
Posted by: Brent | May 4, 2006 08:54 PM